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	<title>Comments on: SBSG #3: Take Me to Your (Dying) Leader</title>
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		<title>By: Zina</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15571</link>
		<dc:creator>Zina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, 

&quot;Jump!&quot; was my favorite part.  I think Michael Angeli, the lead writer, tends to write episodes that are plot movers.  I don&#039;t mean that in a derogatory sense at all.  They are necessary, and he does them very well.  Also, I think they were playing with the episode a bit, introducing the idea of a song, Gaeta&#039;s Lament, moving with the action of the story.

Bear McCreary writes about the idea of opera in this episode:
http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=349

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No, no, Terry.  I really do have a life.  Really, I do!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, </p>
<p>&#8220;Jump!&#8221; was my favorite part.  I think Michael Angeli, the lead writer, tends to write episodes that are plot movers.  I don&#8217;t mean that in a derogatory sense at all.  They are necessary, and he does them very well.  Also, I think they were playing with the episode a bit, introducing the idea of a song, Gaeta&#8217;s Lament, moving with the action of the story.</p>
<p>Bear McCreary writes about the idea of opera in this episode:<br />
<a href="http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=349" rel="nofollow">http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=349</a></p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>No, no, Terry.  I really do have a life.  Really, I do!<br />
Really!</p>
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		<title>By: Zina</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15570</link>
		<dc:creator>Zina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fr. Jim, 

To see what I am saying about absolution you may want to see the text of the conversation between Lee and Romo.  You can find it near the  bottom of this site: 

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sine_Qua_Non</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr. Jim, </p>
<p>To see what I am saying about absolution you may want to see the text of the conversation between Lee and Romo.  You can find it near the  bottom of this site: </p>
<p><a href="http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sine_Qua_Non" rel="nofollow">http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sine_Qua_Non</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zina</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15569</link>
		<dc:creator>Zina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, 

But wouldn&#039;t that be too easy? ;-)

Actually, with the transition from the old gods to the new gods the producers may be moving from the idea of cyclical time to that of linear time.  We are doing some research on the religious perspective of time ... but then that is a topic for a future episode.

If you want a glimpse of what I am talking about, see the link below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time#Time_in_religion_and_mythology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, </p>
<p>But wouldn&#8217;t that be too easy? <img src='http://sqpn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, with the transition from the old gods to the new gods the producers may be moving from the idea of cyclical time to that of linear time.  We are doing some research on the religious perspective of time &#8230; but then that is a topic for a future episode.</p>
<p>If you want a glimpse of what I am talking about, see the link below:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time#Time_in_religion_and_mythology" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time#Time_in_religion_and_mythology</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zina</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15568</link>
		<dc:creator>Zina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father Jim, 

Thanks for the feedback.  We talk about this scene in SBSG #5, and I think you will be a little more hopeful after our analysis.  There are two scenes, one with Bill Adama and one with Lee Adama and both are about absolution.  There are themes of sin and forgiveness that run deep in this show, and we will explore them during the break.  That should provide you with a bit of relief from the darkness presented in this series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father Jim, </p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.  We talk about this scene in SBSG #5, and I think you will be a little more hopeful after our analysis.  There are two scenes, one with Bill Adama and one with Lee Adama and both are about absolution.  There are themes of sin and forgiveness that run deep in this show, and we will explore them during the break.  That should provide you with a bit of relief from the darkness presented in this series.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Pizon</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15563</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Pizon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just throwing this prediction out there: It keeps in line with cyclical events of BSG, “all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.”  As well, with Starbuck being herald of the apocalypse.  Things will culminate in a final battle in which no one survives, with the exception of Hera and Nicholas.  Life on earth will have either long been destroyed or destroyed in the final battle.  In which case, Hera and Nicholas will be left to become a new Adam and Eve starting humanity over again on Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just throwing this prediction out there: It keeps in line with cyclical events of BSG, “all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.”  As well, with Starbuck being herald of the apocalypse.  Things will culminate in a final battle in which no one survives, with the exception of Hera and Nicholas.  Life on earth will have either long been destroyed or destroyed in the final battle.  In which case, Hera and Nicholas will be left to become a new Adam and Eve starting humanity over again on Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BSG in general seems to have this terribly addictive quality to it.  I find many of the episodes nihilistic (and more than a bit depressing).  I recently finished watching Sine Qua Non, in which Romo Lampkin returns, proposes Lee Adama as the next president and proceeds to threaten his life simply because he can&#039;t stand the possibility of hope for the human race.  There are many other spoiler-type things that go on toward the end of the episode that lead one to believe that everything is falling apart for the rag-tag fleet.  
But thanks guys for a fresh perspective on this very addicting show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSG in general seems to have this terribly addictive quality to it.  I find many of the episodes nihilistic (and more than a bit depressing).  I recently finished watching Sine Qua Non, in which Romo Lampkin returns, proposes Lee Adama as the next president and proceeds to threaten his life simply because he can&#8217;t stand the possibility of hope for the human race.  There are many other spoiler-type things that go on toward the end of the episode that lead one to believe that everything is falling apart for the rag-tag fleet.<br />
But thanks guys for a fresh perspective on this very addicting show.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry H Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry H Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 30 May 2008 episode

For an episode with so many changes, it seemed oddly, well, *quiet*. Previous eps with less overt violence and upheaval seem to be more wrenching. Required, I know, to advance the story, but there was nothing to match the shock of that hybrid gasping &quot;jump!&quot;, nor even of the clips of Diana from next week&#039;s teaser. Not complaining, mind you, just an observation on the different story-telling techniques used from week to week, writer to writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 30 May 2008 episode</p>
<p>For an episode with so many changes, it seemed oddly, well, *quiet*. Previous eps with less overt violence and upheaval seem to be more wrenching. Required, I know, to advance the story, but there was nothing to match the shock of that hybrid gasping &#8220;jump!&#8221;, nor even of the clips of Diana from next week&#8217;s teaser. Not complaining, mind you, just an observation on the different story-telling techniques used from week to week, writer to writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Borellian:

Well, it&#039;s hard to project myself into a polytheistic tradition.  It&#039;s hard to imagine what my approach to or understanding of my faith would be without the gifts of the Holy Spirit.  I know I wouldn&#039;t slavishly parrot a faith I believed was false.  So, if I suspected the Lords of Kobol were false gods, I don&#039;t imagine I&#039;d be particularly dedicated to  religious tradition.

As for the change in the nature of the show, I agree if can be frustrating when a show you really like changes direction.  For me, though, we are beginning to see the payoff for the careful exposition you describe.  The producers have transitioned from explanation to revelation, and mere static description has been set into motion.  We are now beyond seeing a religion and culture described and are seeing it transformed.  At least I hope so.  The ghosts of The X Files are hard to shake.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borellian:</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s hard to project myself into a polytheistic tradition.  It&#8217;s hard to imagine what my approach to or understanding of my faith would be without the gifts of the Holy Spirit.  I know I wouldn&#8217;t slavishly parrot a faith I believed was false.  So, if I suspected the Lords of Kobol were false gods, I don&#8217;t imagine I&#8217;d be particularly dedicated to  religious tradition.</p>
<p>As for the change in the nature of the show, I agree if can be frustrating when a show you really like changes direction.  For me, though, we are beginning to see the payoff for the careful exposition you describe.  The producers have transitioned from explanation to revelation, and mere static description has been set into motion.  We are now beyond seeing a religion and culture described and are seeing it transformed.  At least I hope so.  The ghosts of The X Files are hard to shake.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Zina</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15394</link>
		<dc:creator>Zina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric, 
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you like the show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,<br />
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you like the show!</p>
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		<title>By: Borellian</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15392</link>
		<dc:creator>Borellian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zina and Jeff,

A question for the podcast, if you were born in one of the colonies, what would be the role of Tradition in your life? Would you hold fast to your faith based on Tradition? Would you be drawn to the scroll of Pythia even if your colony&#039;s tradition had been to disregard it? Would you be drawn to teachings of Judas Baltar?

***

I think this season has gone way down hill. Where have all the priestesses, priests and preachers gone? Where are the quick but important scenes of public and private prayer? Judas Baltar has no competition proselytizing? Where are the priestesses of Pythia? Where is the Archbishop Fulton Sheen of Caprica? Where is the Joel Osteen of Picon? The faith of twelve diverse colonies has been been disregarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zina and Jeff,</p>
<p>A question for the podcast, if you were born in one of the colonies, what would be the role of Tradition in your life? Would you hold fast to your faith based on Tradition? Would you be drawn to the scroll of Pythia even if your colony&#8217;s tradition had been to disregard it? Would you be drawn to teachings of Judas Baltar?</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>I think this season has gone way down hill. Where have all the priestesses, priests and preachers gone? Where are the quick but important scenes of public and private prayer? Judas Baltar has no competition proselytizing? Where are the priestesses of Pythia? Where is the Archbishop Fulton Sheen of Caprica? Where is the Joel Osteen of Picon? The faith of twelve diverse colonies has been been disregarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://sqpn.com/2008/05/24/sbsg-3-take-me-to-your-dying-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-15353</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your podcast is fantastic and provoking.   I very much enjoy them.   Keep up the GREAT work Zina and Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your podcast is fantastic and provoking.   I very much enjoy them.   Keep up the GREAT work Zina and Jeff.</p>
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