Daily Breakfast 487 - Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?
In this episode: Corpus Christi; Rules and society; Memorial Day and the art of Barbecue; Indiana Jones IV: thumbs up or thumbs down?
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Fr. Roderick - You’re dead-on with your review of “Crystal Skull.” My overall opinion is favorable, but looking at the plot specifically … give me a break! Spielberg said he waited for the “right” story to come along to make another Indy movie, so I’d like to see which story lines they refused.
Oh, yes! I do agree with you! I have had Muslim students in Kindergarten/Kleuters and boy.. they have no respect for their mums. I once had one who kicked his mum in front of my face and she didn’t do anything! With the Indians it is almost the same. Girls are of less importance, less ‘dignity’ then boys. Therefore, if parents have to choose between a daughter or a son for one place in a good school, they will choose the boy. But, let’s be honest…. it happens in almost, if not all, cultures.
question - have you brought the behavior problems in the theatre to the management’s attention ? “the squeeky wheel is the one that gets greased ” - it has to be brought to their attention, otherwise its a personal problem.
Two thumbs up from me for your review of Indy 4.
They indeed could (and should) have done so much better than this.
The old movie-less computer game “Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis” beats KOTCS hands down…
A fun tradition in the U.S. can be found during college football games when the cameras scan the sidelines of players after they complete an exceptionally good play. The athletes will smile and say “Hi Mom” on national TV. The respect for their mom is genuine.
It still amazes me that as certain countries embrace Sharia Law, the rights for females seem to diminish. For example the right to public education, the right to vote, the right to drive, the right to go out in public without being escorted by a male member of the family. This has to play in to the way women are viewed and treated.
Here is an interesting interview/story excerpt related to Indy 4:
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*Steven Spielberg and George Lucas: The EW Q&A*
In a rare joint interview, the ”Indy” pals have a friendly debate about overzealous fans, plot leaks, and changing technology
By Steve Daly
If they had a talk show, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg could name it The Bickersons, in homage to the hit comedic radio program from their early childhoods. They clearly love each other — but they also love to squabble. Arriving together for the interview, they immediately start a coy debate over who should sit where at the rectangular table in Spielberg’s production-office conference room. Lucas quips that having both of them across from the interviewer would be ”confrontational — that looks like it’s a union meeting.” Spielberg jovially declares, ”The table should be round. This is the wrong shape!” At last they settle with Lucas at the head (how alpha male is that?), and over the next 70 minutes, they jockey and jabber and cut each other off like kid siblings competing for attention at mealtime. Lucas plays things especially feisty, pounding the table for emphasis and cutting in so forcibly at one point that Spielberg says, ”George! Hold your horses!” The joshing continues in the hallway afterward. Asked by an associate why they overshot the scheduled hour, Lucas gets a big laugh: ”Well, Steven got angry that I was doing all the talking. So then we got into a fistfight.”
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So why resurrect Indy after all these years?
GEORGE LUCAS: We’re doing it to have fun. We’re not doing it to say, Oh, we’re gonna get an Academy Award, everybody’s gonna love us…. We don’t need the money. We’re only going to get aggravation. The fans think it’s gonna be the Second Coming. And it’s not the Second Coming. They’ve already written the story [in their heads], and lemme tell ya, it’s not that story. So they’re going to be very disappointed. I went through this with Phantom Menace. Believe me, I’ve been there, I’ve done it, I know exactly the way they react. And they’re very vocal about these things. We’re not gonna have adoring fans sending us e-mails saying how much they loved the movie. We’re gonna have a bunch of angry people saying, ”You’re a bunch of a–holes, you should never have done this. You’ve ruined my life forever. I loved Indiana Jones so much and now it’s ruined.” And all that kind of stuff…
Story/Interview continues here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20192282,00.html
And More With Them here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20192040,00.html
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Greetings! I actually saw 3 movies this weekend: the Indiana Jones one, Prince Caspian and Constantine’s Sword (talk about different but actually some related subjects!) I liked the Indiana Jones as entertainment (but agree it was not nearly as good a story as previous ones); I really liked C of Narnia: Prince Caspian (thought it was almost as good as the first one)and still feel uneasy and have mixed feelings about Constantine’s Sword…especially in light of it being the Memorial Day Holiday here in the USA yesterday.
Best regards,
Bonita
I agree with your review of Indiana Jones 4 100% - the Tarzan scene and the ending were horrible. Would this have made you feel any better about Indy 4? Apparently, the original working title was “Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars.” Clearly, George Lucas has lost his mind.
Father Roderick,
I’m the one who called in about BBQing on Memorial Day. This is a picture of my BBQ Pit that we used for family functions.
Sadly, I agree with you that “the maker” seems to have lost his passion for telling good stories. Whatever happened to the inspired and enthusiastic filmmaker who sought to make a lasting impression on young people? Maybe it was the divorce. As a child of divorced parents, it isn’t hard for me to believe that the ordeal could have changed everything about him, even unto the depths of his soul. Whatever the reason, I think Joseph Campbell would be disappointed in his best student. Can the old, cynical Peter Pan recapture his youth and imagination? Let’s hope so.
Hi Father, I enjoyed listening to your review. Although I thought the movie was enjoyable, you did make some good points. For the most part, I thought the story was good and of course Harrison Ford was excellent and it good to see Karen Allen again. However, when you analize it more closely it did have some flaws. It’s unfortunate they didn’t have a more religious theme instead of bringing in the whole alien angle. But, to me, it was just some light entertainment.
No one should be amazed by the treatment of women under sharia law. Quran Sura 4:34 says “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other…As for those (women) from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them, forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.” Really, those serious in learning about Islam should read the Quran. This is just one of many examples about the treatment of women.
I like Indy 4, overall, and I do agree with most of the comments you made on the show. I would like to say something about the cinematography. The original Indy films were shot by Douglas Slocombe, who had already retired when Speilberg, Ford, and Lucas decided to do ‘Crystal Skull’. The new cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, has been working with Spielberg since ‘Saving Private Ryan’, but at the request of Spielberg, had to watch the old trilogy in order to mimic the look of them for ‘Crystal Skull’. Also, this movie was shot on film and not digital, as both Lucas and Spielberg agreed that they should try and maintain a uniform look for the whole series.
Also, about the story; while I agree that the whole sci-fi approach did not feel like old-school Indy, I think people are too quick to blame George Lucas. He didn’t write the screenplay or come up with the story (Jeff Nathanson, who wrote Rush Hour, created the story). Also, the story had to be approved by Ford, Spielberg, and Lucas before production could even begin (one of the reasons why it took so long to make this movie), so any shortcomings with the story is really the fault of all three. I do remember, a few years back, Spielberg and Lucas turned down a story by Frank Darabont (director of ‘The Shawshank Redemption’ and some others), and they had even asked M. Night Shyamalan to pen a story, an offer which he presumably turned down. It would have been interesting to see what movie those stories would have turned into.
I also thought the Tarzan-like moment was really out of place and the ending was a little awkward (but I didn’t hate it). I also really liked that short-but-sweet sword fight.
A lot of comments about the movie, which I have not seen… I’ll probably wait for the DVD. However, you asked for comments on behavior and I could not agree with you more. I know that every generation complains about our yourth and how they are going to the dogs, but there is some truth in that. Many times, a generation rights itself as they get older.
It is funny that now you are 40 years old, you mention these things… But seriously, there is a problem with greed and selfishness. Sometimes the parents think they are doing the right thing when they give their kids everything. As though they didn’t have it all when they were kids.
Part of the problem in my mind is that today’s parents were the kids of the 80’s (for the most part) and something got lost. There is no room for any kind of sacrifice. Telling a child to “offer it up” is met with scorn.
People think that the law applies to everyone but themselves. In manners, in traffic situations, in just about everything.
To be fair, there was an elderly gentleman in church a few weeks ago who, (even after everyone was asked to make sure their phones were off) let his phone ring a few times and then he actually answered it saying to the caller… “I’m in church… yes… go ahead… okay… I’ll call you back”. How utterly rude!!!
There was a CNN documentary by Frank Sesno, back in 1994 (ancient history) about how rudeness, “in your face” attitudes and etiquette, or the lack of, were affecting our civilization. Not a “sky is falling” attitude, but one that looked at how this all fits together. The only reference I could find on it was a library catalog entry:
http://voyager.uvm.edu/bibs/bid736628.html
Very interesting indeed!
Father, I totally agree with you about the muslim kids here in holland. They are brats when there young, and they scar me when they get older! I just think the cultural differences between muslims and wel…catholics are to big. But i loved how you just threw all your annoyences out there, thats good!!
And the people with the cell phones on in the movie theater…grrmmmbbblll thats awefull. Hate that!!
@Linda: I didn’t mean to say that Muslim kids are misbehaving more than other Dutch kids. I was merely conveying something I’ve observed a couple of times now: young boys treating their mother without any respect. Is that behavior they copy from adults? I don’t know. But girls seem to treat their mother very differently. It could also be that these relationships are influenced by the overall permissive attitude here in the Netherlands. It’s always risky to generalize on the basis of a few personal observations.
Brian in Houston, WOW! That’s the biggest grill I’ve ever seen. It’s approaching the size of some cars and is probably twice as large as any other grill I’ve seen.
I feel the same as Father Roderick about going to the theatre to watch a movie. There are far too many distractions from the other people in the theatre, and most of them don’t give a darn if they interrupt your movie watching experience. You would think that as the price of movie tickets go up (nearly $10 in some cities) then people would sit still and concentrate on the movie. But, so many kids come to see movies now and they just want to hang out with their friends and chat or whatever in the theatre. I definitely prefer to watch movies at home. I really don’t mind waiting for the DVD.