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13 Responses to “ Catholic:Under The Hood #157 - First Mass ”

1. 
   Barb in Nebraska Jul 14th, 2008 at 7:49 am

   Thank you for this show on the history of the Catholic church in Australia! I understand your struggle with how much content to put in a show. I vote for using it all and maybe breaking shows into 2 parts.

2. 
   Kathryn Hudson Jul 14th, 2008 at 7:55 am

   Fr. Serafim,
   I happen to have a link to the events you just talked about. One of my ancestors, Catherine Fitzpatrick, founded the Cathedral Choir, kept the blessed Sacrament when the priests were sent away. Her husband, Charles, was a convict; he was transported to NSW around 1790 for “cobbling a hobble” into the shoe of a client. Great…grandmother Catherine went to the colony after him, but as a free woman.
   I hope this adds to the history you explained.

   Pax et bonum, Kathryn Hudson

3. 
   Bob McWilliams Jul 14th, 2008 at 8:05 am

   At my parish we now use the uniform standing posture after communion. this is a link on some discussion about it.

   http://forum.catholic.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=19390&sid=a97d26ee8bea9240a1af7bb643d889bf

4. 
   Fr. Seraphim Beshoner, TOR Jul 15th, 2008 at 1:07 am

   Bob, thanks for the comment and the link. Barb, thanks for your feedback as well.

5. 
   Fr. Seraphim Beshoner, TOR Jul 16th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

   Kathryn,

   Your information indeed helps to tell more of the history of the Catholic Church in Ireland. Thank you for your contribution.

6. 
   Jim_In_Columbus Jul 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

   Fr. S.,

   Thanks for the Australia Catholic history lesson!

   Kathryn, what does it mean … “cobbling a hobble”?

   Fr. S., I have just finished round 1 for the website http://www.goldenrulenews.com. I hope to put a little history sippets in the site that I’m going to call flashback. Hopefully story content for the flashback story will be in place within a week.

   Thanks,
   Jim

7. 
   Justin Jul 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am

   Fr S.,

   Just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work you put in to your podcasts.I recently ‘discovered’ your podcast and cant say enough good things about it. Thanks for all you do.

8. 
   Kathryn Hudson Jul 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

   @Jim_In_Columbus: According to my mom, my great…grandfather Charles Fitzpatrick was a cobbler, or shoe maker, in Ireland during the Penal times. In other words, he made shoes for the landed gentry, a.k.a. the English landowners. He obviously disagreed with his clients’ politics. So he left a nail in someone’s shoe, hence “cobble a hobble.” For that he was transported around 1790.

   Pax! Kathryn

9. 
   Jim_In_Columbus Jul 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

   Wow!

   One way ticket to Australia for something like that.

   Actually, these days, a one way ticket to Australia sounds pretty good. But in 1790, pretty extreme result for “cobble a hobble” action. I have had worse treatment in a dentist chair.

   Thanks for sharing Kathryn.

10. 
    Paul Camarata Jul 19th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    I’ve been in the habit of kneeling until the tabernacle is closed, as you suggest. But at our church, the vessels are cleaned after the tabernacle is closed, meaning the Lord is still truly present on the altar, in the chalice, and uncleansed ciboria. So then, what do we do?

11. 
    Kathryn Hudson Jul 19th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Very minor offenses could get one transported in those days.

12. 
    Fr. Seraphim Beshoner, TOR Jul 19th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    If your parish does not have an established practice, I would suggest kneeling as long as the presiding priest is standing, since he should be responsible for the purification of the vessels. Just sit when the purification is finished and the presiding priest sits down. If you have a concelebrating priest doing the purification I would sit when the presiding priest sits.

13. 
    friarpark Jul 20th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    During weekday Mass, I usually kneel until everyone stands for the prayer. Sunday, I kneel and sit with everyone else.

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