Daily Breakfast 552 – Lang May Yer Lum Reek
In this show: Football and soccer; Scottish sayings; Star Wars on TV; Fringe and the Seal of Confession; Google and the Catholic Church.
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In this show: Football and soccer; Scottish sayings; Star Wars on TV; Fringe and the Seal of Confession; Google and the Catholic Church.
Podcast: Play in new window | Download
Hi there, Jim “Dundee”, thanks for your well wishes. It looks more likr a big crash than a recession right now. Well, the news reports try to make you think that anyway. So keep sending up your prayers for us “straights and gays” alike so that we get everything going in the right direction in our lives: passion, spirituality, health, money, education and the like. Looks like America needs a re-conversion. I’m hanging on to what John Paul II said to us: “Do not be afraid”.
Some interesting opinions here
Seems like Michael C hit on what would Jesus think and do or not do as an example for the rest of us. We know that he did not make any statement on this issue at all. He concentrated on much more important issues and was not concerned about something that according to natural scientists occurs in nature approximately 5% to 6& of the time
We should understand that bibical scholars say that the culture of the time was very diverse with a wide variety of viewpoints, especially among the early Christians. Of course there was Paul and Leviticus voicing some of the strongest minority views of their times but it is important to note that they were only two out of many. We did not hear from the other apostles on this issue or from Jesus and there was no commandment addressing this. If God saw this as important he definitely would have put it in his commandments.
Taking extremely selective quotes out of context out of the bible and putting forth ones own interpretation without quoting what Jesus said about loving everyone and everyone having a place at the table is at best disengenous.
I think we should take our lesson from Jesus and refrain from the condemnation/castigation of others to take a step back because he did say something very important about ourselves if we do that judging of others.
God bless one & all,
Jonathan
@ Jonathan e., Jesus doesn’t specifically address many of our problems. That was not his mission, was it? And what commandment specifically addresses incest? But it is all in the commandments and in Jesus’ messages if we look openly enough. There is also tradition which has been passed down. Not all that Jesus did and said is in the Bible alone. The Early Church Fathers, found at ewtn.com, is a good resource to look into.
No one is judging cuz we are all sinners and we are able to love each other because of Christ’s love for us as we are. But we are not told to STAY sinners as we are. We are all called to perfection.
Discernment is a blessing and is good to cultivate through discussions and such.
For me, it is too difficult even to print any thought of Jesus discussing much of our human activities, like what is being discussed here, but I can understand the great need of someone who is experiencing heavy pain and suffering – even heavy self-indulgence arising out of the need to try to figure this problematic way of living – to ignore the Truth of His coming and try to find an “as is” acceptance.
He does accept, but He calls for more and we are either going up or down as I believe it has been said that there is no safe middle ground.
Yes, He accepted the sinners, weaklings, sick, rich, dead and dying, etc., and admonished at times too, but He asks for conversion.
There is always diversity in people. Paul’s many letters reflect how hard he had to work at times trying to keep the Christians on the right track…it is very easy to stray from the narrow Way.
I say we all give our problems to Jesus and take His light yolk as He desires. The challenge is to give, unconditionally and totally, our problems to Him and then it is for us to do the accepting of His light yolk whatever it may be. If one can do that, it really works out fine.
Hey, if we want to continue with this interesting subject, should someone start a website for it? I’m feeling like we are taking up some kind of Cyberspace room from the Daily Breakfast and ESPN. I don’t know that side of computers. (I helped develop animation software only by testing and suggesting…not the tech side of it.)
I am a Christian, not a Catholic. I feel blessed to be part of a church that is accepting and loving and affirming. I have gay christian friends and would not be part of a church that excluded them. Above all we are called to be Christ-like.
Blessings to all.
@Melissa,
Just a clarification (one I used to need, so please don’t be offended): Catholics ARE Christians.
Also, people who identify as gay are certainly welcome in the Catholic Church. Never been otherwise. It’s just that those people have an extra challenge in living up to the sexual standards of the Church. \
I’m not sure when the idea of warning people of the sinfulness of a course of action became “hateful,” but it’s a false impression. Is it hateful to tell a smoker smoking is harmimg them?
Please go to http://couragerc.net/ and try to see a new perspective.
@Naomi
I am very aware that Catholics are Christians. My point was simply that I am not a Catholic. Thought this was worth pointing out as I was reponding to a Catholic podcast.