It is a shame that society makes accusition after accusition, slur after slur against the Church, and there is no clear positive response from the Church. Yes the Church’s response is out there for those who are looking for it, but the Church needs to in the spotlight saying clearly and definitively what She teaches and why She does.

I think there have been big strides towards this end in recent years, but there is still a need for a more stratgic information policy.

Watched DWDD, (strange to hear you speak Dutch, instead of English, what i am used to ) and listened to this 700′th episode of the daily breakfast (congrats btw) And I am again ashamed of our own people. The Dutch are sometimes so naive and short minded. But its because of the media how we became like this (i think). The media is yelling, it such short message media nowadays, everything is ripped out of proportions. No one really wants to know the deeper thing behind curtain statements, and when we hear something the first thing we do is to get a (negative) verdict of that news.

I’m glad that I ,as a non-catholic, now know how the catholic church looks at those problems in Africa. don’t know it all yet, but have a much better view on it, then before this episode. tnx for that.

Here’s a “hart onder de riem” for you (it’s in Dutch) You deserved it!

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0803/opinions-jihad-africa-hiv-ideas-opinions.html

Funny, how the mainstream media doesn’t seem to catch such stories…

On a completely different subject, I am reminded of when I took my niece to see The Empire Strikes Back in 1980(?). This was the ONLY theater in town that had this “surround” sound and they played Star Wars music before the movie began, and when the 20th Century Fox music, and picture came up on the screen everyone began cheering.

I think there is nothing we can to against this ignorance than to stand up for the truth as you did.

I find it quirky that there is a lot of media attention on this “spooky” entertainment (they aren’t documentaries). Many are willing to acknowledge this yet can get “offended” about God-go figure. Why that when, as Catholics, we have the Communion of Saints at every Mass.

Silver, an element which cannot itself deteriorate to another element or compound can; however, tarnish.

And I can still put on a pretty dress and be a lady.

Girls love to play too, don’t leave us in the cold just because we can also wield a mean eyeshadow palette and know the difference between taupe and khaki.

Thanks for this great episode of the Daily Breakfast!

Have a good day…

Can the Church than even deny people to answer to God’s call, because those Anglicans didn’t have the clear guidance young Catholic men who discern a vocation have?

Oh, but Inge, it is unique in a sense. John-Paul-II is the one who originally opened the door for Anglican priests to not only enter the R.C. Church, but to also become practicing Roman Catholic priests, even though they were married.

Anglicans are Protestants, is really not unique that Protestant ministers who convert to Catholicism become Catholic priest and get a dispensation because they are married. This practice predates John Paul II. Anglicans are so related to Catholics that they are special in that regard, most continental Protestants don’t feel Anglicans are proper Protestants.

Therefore it’s only natural that the Vatican came up with this.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0246.html

I believe that priests in the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches can also be married. So I don’t know if the recent Anglican ruling is “unique”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches#Clerical_celibacy

Of course celibacy is a discipline. That isn’t what I am saying. You are correct in saying that they must receive a “dispensation” from the Pope, but you are incorrect in assuming that “…former protestant ministers, who covert to the Catholic Church and want to continue their vocation as a shepherd in their new church”. This is ONLY for Anglican priests who still have to be ordained since we do not recognize their ordination as valid.

Finally, my whole point is not to question all of those things, but to question the fact that some men can be called to Holy Orders, but not have the “gift” of celibacy. It is not only a matter of “fairness”, but a matter of justice that a man who is ordained as a Catholic Priest, who takes leave and marries is banned from ministry, but a man who is an Anglican Priest, who is married, is welcomed into the Roman Church, and is allowed (after much scrutiny)to practice as a Roman Catholic Priest while remaining married.

Many of you are too young to remember, but after Vatican-II there were many priests who dragged their feet about making changes to the liturgy etc. The priest in our neighboring parish was one of them. Our pastor made the changes, albeit difficult, and he received a great deal of scorn and complaints from parishioners who resisted. My pastor died, I feel in part, a broken man because he was obedient to the bishop. There have been many great priests who have left active ministry only because of celibacy. As I already said, there is nothing wrong with celibacy – it is a gift, but one can certianly receive the call priesthood and not the gift of celibacy.

Celibacy is a discipline, not a sacrament. In the Eastern Orthodox Rite it’s perfectly possible for priests and deacons to be married, although bishops are always unmarried, celibate men. So even within the Catholic Church’s history there were times that priests were married.

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_celibacy.

I have mixed feelings about this because although I want to see more unity among Christians, I have a problem with the fact that if you are an Anglican priest with a family, you can, for all intents and purposes, become a Roman Catholic priest. But, if you are a Roman Catholic priest you cannot marry or have a family. If you do leave and have a family, you are banned from the sacraments.

So, we’ve lost a lot of good men only because they wanted to marry. Celibacy is good and should remain a tradition, but if God calls an Anglican man to the Catholic priesthood, why can’t He call and Catholic priest to the sacrament of matrimony?

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Many thanks for the new Catholic Weekend podcast. It was great to hear so many great Sqpn podcasters. Its a light-hearted but informa tive look at things in your lives and the news.

Long may all yer lums reek!

Jim Gordon
Scotland

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Haven’t listened yet, but very excited to get to it later today!