Grief, Faith, and the Space Between
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COZ147: Grief changes you. The question is: Will it harden you—or deepen you?
Episode 147 marks a powerful return for Catholics of Oz as Lindsay Sant shares the story of losing his mother, Carmen, after a long battle with cancer. In an honest and vulnerable conversation, Lindsay and Lino Saubolle reflect on what it means to face death with faith, to sit beside someone in their final days, and to discover hope in the middle of heartbreak.
The episode traces Carmen’s final weeks—moments of prayer, laughter, Scripture, Divine Mercy devotion, and the profound simplicity of a chaplain asking, “Are you afraid?” Her answer opens a window into the universal human fear of death—and the deeper trust that faith makes possible.
Drawing from C.S. Lewis’s A Grief Observed, Lindsay wrestles with the “strangeness” of grief: the numbness, the habits that no longer have a target, the way life feels permanently altered. If heaven is real, why do we still ache so deeply? The discussion doesn’t offer clichés. Instead, it offers companionship.
The conversation widens to community—how colleagues, family, and counseling become instruments of grace. Reflecting on Matthew 25, Lindsay challenges listeners to see Christ in one another, especially in seasons of quiet suffering. What if the way we treat each other during grief reveals our true theology?
Lino shares his own experiences of loss, pointing to a conviction that sustains him: this is not the end. Faith does not erase grief—but it reframes it.
The episode closes on a lighter note with “Science After Dark,” where drones blasting AC/DC are being tested as a non-lethal way to deter wolves from livestock. Because even in sorrow, joy and curiosity remain. This episode is about loss. It’s about hope. And it’s about carrying one another forward.
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Links for this episode:
- A Grief Observed, by C.S. Lewis
- Drones use rock music and movie shouts to scare wolves – Earth.com
- Drones as a potential hazing tool to prevent wolf depredations on livestock – ScienceDirect
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