Shared Death Experiences
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MYS429: You are holding the hand of someone you love as they die. Then the room changes. A light appears that you know at once is not any light on this earth. A mist lifts off the body. At the edge of the room, people you recognize — people who died years ago — are waiting.
That is a shared death experience. The strange part is not that the dying person reports it. It is that you do, and you are perfectly healthy.
Jimmy Akin and Dom Bettinelli work through a phenomenon that sits right next to the near-death experience without being one. In an NDE, the dying person has the experience. In a deathbed vision, the dying person sees something the bystanders do not. In a shared death experience, the bystander gets pulled in — seeing the light the dying person moves toward, feeling lifted off the floor, sometimes traveling part of the way and being turned back at a border.
Raymond Moody, who coined “near-death experience” in 1975, named this one too. In 1994 it happened to him: six family members held hands around his mother’s bed, four felt themselves lifted, the room seemed to fold into the shape of an hourglass, and one of his sisters pointed at the foot of the bed and said their father had come back for her.
The accounts are old. Pope St. Gregory the Great, writing in the sixth century, records St. Benedict watching his sister’s soul rise from a convent miles away, and later seeing the soul of the bishop of Capua carried up in a globe of fire. The Victorian Society for Psychical Research catalogued dozens more. Modern hospice researchers — the Fenwicks, Osis and Haraldsson, William Peters and the Shared Crossing Project — have been collecting them from nurses and doctors who had every professional reason to stay quiet.
Then the harder question: what accounts for them? Jimmy lays out eight explanations — fraud, coincidence, false memory, grief hallucination, chemical signaling from the dying body, cultural expectation, brain entrainment, and the possibility that they are exactly what they look like — and tests each against the cases that resist it. The ones with five witnesses in one room. The ones that happen hundreds of miles from the deathbed. And the ones where the bystander comes back knowing something they had no way to know, and can go and check it.
Plus mysterious feedback on episode 418, Skeleton Lake: supercell thunderstorms above 10,000 feet, a linguistics answer on “a historical” versus “an historical,” and a listener who thinks the answer is human sacrifice.
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Links for this episode:
- Raymond Moody and Paul Perry, Glimpses of Eternity (Guideposts, 2010)
- William Peters, At Heaven’s Door (Simon and Schuster, 2022)
- Peter Fenwick and Elizabeth Fenwick, The Art of Dying (Continuum, 2008)
- Sir William F. Barrett, Death-Bed Visions (Methuen, 1926)
- Karlis Osis and Erlendur Haraldsson, At the Hour of Death (Avon Books, 1977)
- Edmund Gurney, Frederic Myers, and Frank Podmore, Phantasms of the Living, vols. 1–2: vol. 1; vol. 2
- Daniel Bourke, Apparitions at the Moment of Death (2024)
- Shared Crossing Project
- Peters, Kinsella, and Williams, “Shared Death Experiences: A Little-Known Type of End-of-Life Phenomena Reported by Caregivers and Loved Ones,” American Journal of Hospice and Palliative Medicine, 2021
- See also: Pope St. Gregory the Great, Dialogues (especially Books 2 and 4)
- IANDS Fact Sheet on Shared Death Experiences
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Chapters:
- 0:00:12 – Intro
- 0:00:41 – Cold open: Have you ever sat at a deathbed?
- 0:01:33 – What is a shared death experience?
- 0:03:04 – What bystanders actually perceive
- 0:04:38 – SDEs vs. crisis apparitions and deathbed visions
- 0:06:18 – Raymond Moody coins the term
- 0:06:59 – The first case: Dr. Jameson and her mother
- 0:10:48 – Moody’s own shared death experience
- 0:13:16 – William Peters and the Shared Crossing Project
- 0:14:57 – Peters’ four modes of SDE
- 0:17:31 – Dana’s shared life review
- 0:20:37 – Veridical content: the yearbook photographs
- 0:21:34 – The mist and the soul leaving the body
- 0:24:46 – A whole family sees the light
- 0:26:59 – History: how far back do these go?
- 0:27:16 – Pope St. Gregory the Great’s Dialogues
- 0:28:16 – St. Benedict and St. Scholastica
- 0:29:56 – Benedict, Germanus of Capua, and Servandus
- 0:32:55 – Romula, Servulus, and Tarsilla
- 0:37:51 – The Society for Psychical Research
- 0:38:41 – Phantasms of the Living: little Isidore
- 0:40:40 – Fanny seen in Shanghai and in Wales
- 0:43:08 – Sir William Barrett’s Deathbed Visions
- 0:45:31 – Osis and Haraldsson: At the Hour of Death
- 0:47:11 – Peter and Elizabeth Fenwick
- 0:48:01 – Peters’ cases: the stairway of light
- 0:51:51 – Scott Taylor and Nolan
- 0:53:04 – Hospice nurse Julie McFadden
- 0:54:14 – Who has SDEs, and how common are they?
- 0:56:18 – Why SDEs matter for surviving death
- 1:00:13 – Thank you to Patrons
- 1:00:46 – Sponsor: Rosary Army and School of Mary
- 1:01:08 – Sponsorship opportunities
- 1:02:13 – Eight theories
- 1:03:43 – Reason Perspective: Fraud
- 1:05:48 – Coincidence
- 1:07:50 – Confabulation
- 1:09:32 – Bereavement hallucinations
- 1:11:30 – Chemical signaling from the dying body
- 1:13:12 – Expectation and cultural script
- 1:15:31 – Brain entrainment
- 1:18:50 – A genuine glimpse: the positive case
- 1:21:19 – The state of the evidence
- 1:23:07 – Faith Perspective
- 1:25:30 – Bottom Line
- 1:26:58 – Further Resources
- 1:27:43 – SpiderMail bumper
- 1:27:53 – Mysterious Feedback: #418 Skeleton Lake
- 1:28:03 – Feedback: “a historical” vs “an historical”
- 1:31:37 – Feedback: supercells, hail, and elevation
- 1:37:38 – Feedback: human sacrifice theory
- 1:39:35 – Feedback: bodies moved by freeze and thaw
- 1:41:05 – Feedback: why no animal skeletons?
- 1:41:36 – Your mysterious feedback
- 1:42:13 – Thank you to Oasis Studio 7
- 1:42:24 – Jimmy’s YouTube channel
- 1:43:09 – Next Time: Buck Nelson, the Ozark Spaceman
- 1:43:24 – Get your Mysterious merch
- 1:43:40 – Show notes
- 1:43:47 – Become a Patron
- 1:43:55 – Sponsor: The Grady Group
- 1:44:49 – Outro
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